Our newest Church Theme for WordPress

Our newest Church Theme for WordPress has been released. It is called the “Restore Church Theme (Bundle)” and we are very excited to see how churches use it to power their websites. It has already been described by a few customers as the “best website experience” they’ve ever had. This is great to see as many months were put into development of the church-centered features packed into this Theme to make sure we were delivering the best product possible. These are the same functions in our other church theme called the “Growing Church Theme (Bundle)”. The main difference here is aesthetics with a completely new “hipsterish” look and feel with rustic, reclaimed wood as the backgrounds.

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All of the functions are plugin-powered and come as part of the theme bundle with auto set-up in minutes. You’ll love using the sermon manager to posts your sermons and organize them by sermon series, speakers, and topic. This allows your listeners to easily find sermons in seconds without even needing to refresh the page.

It’s all totally built to be optimized for Mobile devices so your website users can use all of the website just as easily on their cell phones as they do on their laptop/computer at home.

All of this comes couples with our support to guarantee you get the site set up the way you need to. We’ll be there every step of the way! Updates are also included for a full year to make sure you are always secure.

If you have any questions about this theme, feel free to email us and we’ll be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. Our email is support@mintplugins.com and we usually respond in a couple minutes!

Check it out here and see how you can transform your church’s website to something amazing today!

Mint Plugins Affiliate Program

Are you interested in helping to sell our Plugins and Themes on your website/blog? We just publicly launched our affiliate program which will allow you to do just that! You can earn 25% of each sale you refer through your own website.

Right now, this program is only open to people who are using their websites to promote Mint Plugins. In order to be credited for any sales you generate through blogging, make sure that all links to Mint Plugins contain your affiliate URL. There are a few other terms and conditions you must agree to – for example, we aren’t into spam and don’t want anyone spamming on our behalf either – stuff like that.

Basically, we just want REAL people promoting our products to sell to REAL people. If that sounds like it’s up your alley, head over to our Affiliate Program.

Free Church Logo Template for Photoshop

If you’ve been looking at our WordPress Church Theme bundles, you may have noticed the logo placeholder at the top left. This week, we are giving away the Photoshop file that is used to generate that logo.

Here are some screenshots and links to our Church Theme that use this logo for their “demo” version:

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If your church needs a logo to go with your website, you can modify this file (using Adobe Photoshop if you have access to it) and have a great, simple church logo ready to go in minutes!

Download the logo here:

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Looking for a Church Theme for WordPress to bring new life to your Church’s website? Check out our Church Themes for WordPress – our customers love them!

 

Merry Christmas from Mint Plugins!

We hope everyone is having a great holiday Christmas season! Here at Mint Plugins, we are going to be available to do support all through the holidays to help make sure that your questions continue to be answered quickly and your websites are functioning perfectly.

On Christmas Day (December 25th, 2015) you may notice a small delay if you email us for support – but we will get back to you within the same day for sure – as always! Let us know if you have any questions at all and we’ll be here to help!

Why the new WP API feels like the past repeating – and like the future.

I don’t often write about my personal feelings with WordPress and usually focus on technical developments, updates, and improvements. While this blog post falls into that technical category, it also has an interesting, almost nostalgic feel to it.

I started using WordPress in 2004. Back then, I was a Flash Developer. Remember Flash? It used to be all the rage. I was building websites for people in Flash left right and center. People loved them. They were fun, edgy, “outside the box”, and all that good stuff.

With Flash your website could look like almost anything – even if it was very obscure or seemingly random. Want your website to be a picture of a room where people can explore by clicking on random things in the room? Flash could do that – and it did that type of thing really well. It ran similarly to how Apps work today – with a “single page” it would change based on what you click without refreshing and it would change its state with ease and beauty. To the end user, it felt like the mobile apps of today.

However, it wasn’t great for website owners who wanted to update their information. When I built someone a website in Flash, I would compile the entire website into a single SWF file. In order to make a change I would need to recompile the whole website. Websites need updates – and I ended up spending a lot of time doing updates for my clients – updates they could have – and would have been happy to do themselves.

Thus, I looked for a way to allow users to save custom information which could be “pulled in” to the Flash app without me needing to re-compile. This is when I found WordPress. It was my de-coupled user interface where my users could save their information without needing to touch the Flash file at all! It saved me time, them time, and everything was great.

The way I pulled the information into WordPress was using RSS feeds. WordPress would spit out all of the text content using RSS, I would pull that RSS feed into the Flash app, parse it, and place the text where it needed to go on the website. With this system, my users could blog directly onto their Flash websites.

Then one day, smart phones came along. It became clear that websites needed to be responsive and change shape to fit whatever size screen the user was using. It also became clear that Apple was not going to allow Flash to work on any iDevices. With that, Flash was dead almost overnight.

By this point, I had begun to get very familiar with WordPress and started playing around with creating Themes for it. Themes were definitely more “standardized” than the Flash apps/websites I had been building. Navigation was usually where you’d expect to find it (at the top) and, while this was definitely less exciting and less “Wild West” feeling than my Flash design days, it was also good for the end user – as they could use websites much quicker with (at least slightly) more standardized layouts.

Now, almost 10 years later, WordPress has announced that the WordPress API is here and is essentially the new RSS – with more features of course. Developers are encouraged to build Apps by pulling WordPress-saved data into them – the same way I had been doing all those years ago. Now, users can send data to WordPress with the app as well – which makes it so that WordPress itself doesn’t even need to be seen. It can run entirely unseen by both the user and the website owner. If this had been around 10 years ago, I’d have been in Flash heaven.

These days, Javascript has completely taken over Flash’s place when it comes to most functionality and frameworks like React, Node.js, and Angular are taking over – among many many others.

All this feels very full circle for me as a developer and I got hit with a wave of nostalgia when it was announced at WordCamp US 2015 that “Single Page Applications” written using javascript and data passed through the WP API would be the way of the future. It’s funny because it reminds me of nothing but the past – but with some new flavours. It’s interesting to see this type of cycle on something as “new” as the internet and I’m excited to see where it takes us next!

I plan on diving into this new App Style of development with Javascript to power up our plugins and themes even more in the coming months. Stay tuned! 🙂

WordPress 4.4 Update – Make sure to update your plugins too!

WordPress version 4.4 has just been released. It has a bunch of new bug fixes and features. When you go to do the new update, you may also notice some updates from us here at Mint Plugins as well under “Dashboard” > “Updates” in your WordPress dashboard. Make sure to do all of those updates as well as they make sure that everything keeps running like a well oiled machine.

We have done testing to make sure that these latest versions fix any bugs that may have arisen from WordPress 4.4. If you find a bug or something isn’t working quite right, feel free to let us know!

You can always reach us by emailing support@mintplugins.com – and we’re always quick to respond (just read the testimonials at the bottom of this page for proof ;).

Our newest free plugin allows navigation anywhere you need it.

We just released a new, totally free add-on for MP Stacks which allows you to put WordPress navigation menus anywhere you need them. This expands the ability of MP Stacks to be simply for page (or post) design to being used for Website Headers as well. Now, your theme doesn’t need to have a header at all – and you can design your navigation menus as you need them using MP Stacks.

Your menus can be multi-level with as many sub-menus as you need. They will also work on normal desktops and on mobile devices (as mouse-over events are tricky on mobile devices).

To go hand-in-hand with this, our free WordPress Theme called “Knapstack” (which is built for all purposes and also highly compatible with MP Stacks) can now be set up without a default header – and instead gives you the option to use a custom MP Stack as your header on every page. The stack you choose to use for your header will automatically be placed at the top of every page. As with all Stacks, this header stack can have as many Bricks as you need. This opens up quite a few new possibilities.

For example, say your website is running a sale and you want to make sure everyone visiting your site sees that sale, you could simply add a Brick to your header stack with information about the sale, it it will appear on every page across your whole website – right at the top. When your sale is over, delete the brick and it goes away. This is just one potential use for this.

This free add-on is something that many of our customers have requested so that they can build complete pages with MP Stacks – from top to bottom.

It’s totally free to use and you can download it here: https://mintplugins.com/plugins/mp-stacks-navigation/

 

Why purchasing a WordPress Child Theme might be a mistake.

What is a Child Theme in WordPress?

WordPress has something called “Child Themes” which are essentially mini themes that sit on top of a “parent” theme. The Child Themes give you a way to change the look and feel of the parent WordPress theme.

Why use a Child Theme at all?

At this point, you might be asking: “Why would I want to use a Child Theme when I can just change the code of the “parent” (or “normal”) WordPress Theme”. You might know how to hack a bit of CSS and swap in your own code here and there – enough to make it work.

Well, here’s the important part of Child Themes: They allow you to modify the look/feel of the parent theme without changing any of the parent theme’s code.

Why does it matter if I change Parent Theme’s Code?

If there’s 1 thing I’ve learned in making WordPress Themes for the last decade, it’s that code projects are NEVER done. Many things are changing on the internet every day. Whether it’s hackers finding new ways of breaking security or even just browsers updating the way they do things, the internet – and the way it displays/does things – is always changing and evolving.

This means that your WordPress Theme is likely going to need updates. When a WordPress Theme gets updated, it deletes ALL of the previous theme code and overwrites it with the updated theme code.

If you made changes to the Theme’s code, it is going to be lost when you update! This is why it is so important NOT to change the Parent (or, again, “Normal”) Theme’s code. Here is where Child Themes come in:

Child Themes let you modify your Theme without changing any of the Parent Theme’s Code.

If you want to modify the header of your theme, just copy the header.php file in your Parent Theme’s folder and paste it into your Child Theme’s folder. This will let WordPress know to ignore the header.php file in the Parent Theme folder and to use your new one in the Child Theme folder. Now, you can modify any of the code you want in the header.php file and it wont be lost if/when you update the Parent Theme! Pretty genius right? The same thing will work for ANY file you place into your child theme. So to re-cap:

If you put a file called “header.php” in your Child Theme, WordPress will use THAT file instead of the one in the Parent Theme. Make sense? I hope so! (Let me know in the comments if this is still confusing and I’ll try to clarify it further).

Child Themes are great.

I love Child Themes and the way they allow me to tweak little things here and there in my websites. As my websites grow and change, I love the power that adding a couple of code lines to my child theme gives me over the look/feel/functionality of my websites. Even with MP Stacks, I can hide specific Bricks on specific pages by adding a simple “.BODY_CLASS_HERE #mp-brick-BRICK_ID_HERE{ display:none; }” to my child theme’s css file.

This all leads me to a strange trend in WordPress that I am confused by: Buying/Selling child themes.

If you buy a Child Theme and it needs an update, it defeats the purpose of Child Themes.

If someone sells you a Child Theme, it might as well be called a Parent Theme. Child Themes are intended to be custom to you – by you. This is their purpose: to give you a way of making your theme customized.

However, if you are buying a child theme, that means other people are buying that same child theme – and that means that it will eventually need to be updated by someone who isn’t you. When they release that update, it will overwrite your customized code – and it’s no different than if you installed the Theme without a Child Theme at all.

I find this way of doing things to be very strange. It defeats to original and stated purpose of Child Themes. It goes against WordPress standards and knowingly misleads users into thinking Child Themes are something other than what they were supposed to be – a way to customize your website. This type of product-creation-behaviour is frustrating because it leads to user confusion and fragmentation within WordPress – where official WordPress things lose their meaning.

There is no such thing as a Grandchild Theme – so be careful.

At this point in time, there isn’t a way to make a Child Theme for a Child Theme (or a Grandchild Theme if you will). There won’t be a simple way for you to customize a Child Theme or replace elements you wish to change. So be careful. I recommend only buying themes that are “Parent” themes – which will allow you to create a Child Theme and customize it as you need.

Here’s a Free Theme and Child Theme for WordPress to get you started in the right direction:

If you’re looking for a great “Blank Canvas” type WordPress Theme that will allow for a lot of easy customization, check out our free theme called “Knapstack Theme“. It utilizes the MP Stacks Page building plugin. We also have a free Child Theme that goes with it and can help you get your Child Theme off the ground the right way! Download the knapstack-child-theme.

Without good photography, any WordPress Theme will look bad.

without-great-photography-your-wordpress-theme-sucksIf you’re someone who’s purchased a WordPress theme before, you might relate to this experience: You see a theme that looks great in the demo before you purchase. However, once you install the theme, you realize that all of the great photography that you saw in the demo doesn’t come with the theme – and it’s looking pretty darn plain!

If you’re a photographer and you’ve got some great photos that match your website’s color-scheme and brand, you’re all set! However, if you’re not a photographer you might find yourself stuck at this point. You might feel “duped” by the theme seller – who made their “demo” look great by purchasing a lot of great Stock Photography – but they neglected to tell you that they’d spent over $1000 on Stock Photography to make their Theme’s demo look great.

We want to do things a bit differently, better.

When you purchase one of our themes, we have either taken the photos in-house or used 100% royalty free photos for all major design elements. Aside from some of our wordPress wedding themes (where you would assuredly want replace the photos of another couple with your own), we make sure that you have the license to use the photos in our “demos”, and that they are delivered with the theme when you purchase. Not only are they delivered, but they are uploaded DIRECTLY to the places they need to be on your website.

Great Photos Included, but still easy to swap.

Because all of our Theme Bundles are powered by MP Stacks (our page building WordPress Plugin), you can easily swap out any photo that comes with a Bundle. This is an extremely simple tool for those who have photos of their own that they want to use with the Theme. And so, while we make it super simple to change any photos, you also get great photography with all of our themes in-the-box.

Where to get some great photos for free:

If you’ve purchased a theme from another company and had this sinking feeling directly after purchasing – realizing that the photos aren’t included and the theme looks really “empty” now, there are a few things you could try. There are some great free photo websites out there that allow you to use their photos at no extra cost.  One of our favourites is UnSplash – https://unsplash.com/.

Our free GoogleMaps Add-On for MP Stacks just got easier!

We just released an update for our Free Google Maps Add-On for MP Stacks (Our Page Designing/Building Plugin for WordPress). Previous to this version (1.0.0.6), you had to enter a Google maps API Key – which was a nice feature for those who wanted tracking control – but in reality was never used by any of our users.

This unnecessary complication has now been removed from the Add-On plugin and it will work right out-of-the-box now without any additional ‘digital handshakes’ with Google needed.

If you already have this plugin installed in your WordPress, you can easily get this update by going to “Dashboard” > “Updates” and clicking the “Update” button.

Let us know if you have any questions about this update and we’ll be glad to answer them for you.

New update released for Slider

We just released a new update for our Slider Add-On Plugin for MP Stacks called “MP Stacks + Slider“. It now has the ability for any slide to link to any URL. It also has open-type controls which allow you to choose how you wish for the link to open. You can tell it to open in a new window/tab, in the same window, or even in a Lightbox Pop-up with a specific size. This is great if you want it to open a YouTube or Vimeo Video!

Here’s a screenshot of the new controls:

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New Link Controls in MP Stacks + Slider.

The story behind our new Church WordPress Theme

We have been creating WordPress content for almost 7 years now – initially through our Theme-Based website “Mint Themes” and now also through this website (Mint Plugins). We built quite a few WordPress Themes for Churches aimed at making it simple for a Church to get their website online. Thousands of churches have successfully built their websites with our Church Themes.

We just released our first new Church Theme in 2 years – with good reason for the long delay. We have done a ton of hours of coding to make sure it is the absolute best theme experience for both the site owner and the site user. We think you will truly love the experience of using it. If you’d like to check it out, head over to the “Growing Church Theme Bundle” page.

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Old Weaknesses become New Strengths.

With any product, there are inherent weaknesses. The goal of a good Theme Creator is to learn from those weaknesses and make better products. For example, the Church Themes we’d previously built were designed prior to the mass-usage of “Smart Phones” and therefore, the need for responsive design. This made it so that, while we could make those Themes work on smaller, mobile-sized screens, they were never really as good as they could/should have been on mobile.

Also, some of the functionality of the Themes was not as portable as it could have been – simply because plugins for churches were not being built yet. What does that mean? Well, put simply, it means that if you changed your theme, your sermons, events, photos and videos went with it. If you wanted a new layout, the functionality was “tied” to the theme – and you’d have to manually re-create each sermon.

Our sermon manager was also very basic. This was good because it was easy to use. However it was also bad in that there was no way to “group” sermons together. Often sermons come in a “series” and having a way to do this became one of our most requested features.

Another highly-requested feature was the ability to have “Recurring” or “Repeating” events. Churches usually run week-to-week. They might have the same events every week at the same time and the same place. For example, Sunday morning services are usually always the same every week. Churches found that posting the Sunday service as an event became very repetitious and sent us requests to allow events to “recur” – thus only needing to be set up once.

The New Strengths:

Portability

This new theme bundle has been completely built form the ground up to use plugins for functionality. This way, if you decide to use a different theme at some point in the future, your sermons and events can go with it without any issues. This way, you aren’t ever “trapped” at all and are free to do whatever you wish with your website.

Responsivity

The Growing Church Theme Bundle is completely responsive – even though it allows for complete customizability. You are free to completely re-arrange the page with a few clicks – but it will always be responsive. This is something that has been programmed intuitionally and from-the-start. Because we built the layouts to work with our MP Stacks page building plugin, you get both responsive-ness and customizability. It will always look good on any device!

Sermon Manager

The new sermon manager is powered by the “Church Theme Content” plugin which is built by ChurchThemes.com. Because of this, if you use any of their themes, you can easily switch to this new theme – or vice versa. This is a part of our portability mentioned above. But we’ve gone a few steps further than that and made it compatible with MP Stacks as well – meaning you have total control over how those sermons get displayed in a grid. You can allow for filtering using Isotopes, change the number of Sermons per row, sizes, and more! It is something that took months for us to get right – and we feel like it is finally at a place where it will be really valuable to churches who post sermons often. We’ve gotten great feedback from churches who are loving the sermon manager system in the Growing Church Theme Bundle so we feel like we’re on the right track with it! To be honest, we’re really excited to see how it can transform your sermon-section to be really user friendly for your website’s users.

Recurring Events.

Adding recurring event functionality to our themes became a priority after getting so many requests from customers for it. However, it was also one of the most difficult things we’ve had to code. Because time is infinite, it was difficult to decipher how to make events repeat forever without crashing computers. Eventually, after a few months of coding and testing, we came up with a solution that allows events to recur forever without slowing down the system at all.

We added this recurring functionality to our events plugin and also to our MP Stacks + EventGrid plugin – which is what powers the event grid in the theme. Again, because this functionality is in a plugin and not tied to the theme, it allows your events to be “portable” and used with any other theme in the future.

New Font-Weight Controls in our free MP Stacks Google Fonts Add-On

This week we released an update for almost every single one of our plugins – and the Google Fonts add-on for MP Stacks had a particular addition which has already proven very useful to our users – so much we’ve received some “support requests” just to say “thanks” – which is really cool for us!

The new addition is Font Weight controls. In this update (Version 1.0.0.6) , if a font on Google has different weights available, you can simply select the weight you’d like to use for any text area! It’s super simple!

You can get the Google Fonts Add-On for MP Stacks totally free! Download it here.

 

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New Multi-Device Text Size Controls in MP Stacks

We released version 1.0.2.9 of MP Stacks this week and one of its main new features is the ability to control text sizes, colors, line-height, and spacing separately on differently devices.

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Why have separate controls for different devices?

Sometimes, you might want EXTREMELY LARGE font sizes for your main tagline on your home page. While it might look great on a desktop-sized computer, that same LARGE font size takes up too much space on a phone! With separate font-size control for each device, you can now make it look EXACTLY how it should for each separate device!

Sometimes you’ll want to put text overtop of an image. This is great if the whole image is dark and your text is light in color (or vice versa). But if parts of your image are lighter than others, the text can get washed-out and disappear against the background. This might ONLY happen on a phone-size screen, or an iPad sized screen. With these new controls, you can change the color on the Phone size so that your text always “pops” no matter the screen size.

We made sure to keep these controls simple to use and they only display for the device you need. Simply click on the device you wish to set and change them.

If you have any comments or questions about these new features be sure to let us know in the comments or by emailing us at support@mintplugins.com.

“The WordPress Customizer” vs “MP Stacks Brick Editor”

We are big fans of the WordPress Customizer and have built all of our Themes’ basic controls to use the Customizer. However, while there are certain simple things that work great in the Customizer, other things don’t work quite as well with it. When it comes to building products that our customers will love, we want to use the right tool for the right job. We’ve discovered that the Customizer isn’t the right tool for EVERY job.

Goal for this post:

There are many posts on the internet describing the WordPress Customizer’s strengths and they are all great! However, this post is simply an honest look at a few of the key weaknesses it has as well. For this investigation we’ll be going over a few key points, how they are weaknesses, why we’ve decided not to use it in MP Stacks, and have instead decided to move forward with our custom “Brick Editor” for the foreseeable future. This is not intended to “bash” the WordPress Customizer in any way. Rather, it is meant to honestly outline some of the weaknesses it has and reasons for other types of solutions to live alongside it.

Weaknesses in the WordPress Customizer:

  • Control Context: It can be hard to understand which options control which parts of the page or site.
  • Control Area Size: Some controls need more space than the Customizer Allows for.
  • Structure Consistency: The customizer wasn’t built for any specific page structure.

1. Control Context

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Control Context is something that all three of the issues in this post are related to. When you first load up the WordPress Customizer, it shows you the controls for your entire website. Some controls are even for pages that aren’t in-view at the moment. This becomes extremely inefficient if you wish to have many controls in an extremely flexible page design. Suddenly, the user is faced with hundreds and hundreds of options and the context of those options is completely lost. They don’t know if a certain setting affects their current page, or a completely different, currently hidden part of the site. Even the slide-style controls recently added to the customizer to help de-clutter don’t help to keep context – in fact they have the opposite effect. If you’re anything like, you might take a break for 5 minutes and come back – only to forget which section of settings you had open – and no way of knowing without clicking back through all the different settings screens in the Customizer.

How the MP Stacks Brick Editor does this better:

brick-editor-context-in-tactRather than showing ALL of the controls for the entire website at once, the MP Stacks Brick Editor ONLY shows the controls for the Brick (or page section) in-question. By double-clicking on any Brick, it opens ONLY the options for available that section of the page.  This way, the user knows that any change they make will only affect that page section (or “Brick”). This keeps things much simpler – and actually allows for much more control at the same time. You could have thousands and thousands of settings – but the user won’t get overwhelmed because they only see what they need to – when they want to.

2. Size:

The WordPress Customizer takes up a very small portion of the left-side of the page. The reason for this is because of its live-preview nature. When you make a change in the customizer, it automatically refreshes on the right side so you can see the change you made in-action. While this is a great feature, it also has its drawbacks. The small size available to the Customizer contributes to the “Control Context” issue above because once you start to have many many options, squishing them into the side starts to get more frustrating – as you need to scroll for a long time to view each available option.

How the MP Stacks Brick Editor does this better:

Some related-controls work best to be beside each other horizontally. For example, in MP Stacks when using the “Text” Content-Type, you have the ability to set, across different device sizes, the Font Size, Line Height, Paragraph Spacing, and Google Font for each text block. Each of those options sit beside each other horizontally and take up much less vertical space – thus removing the need to scroll.

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3. Structure Consistency:

Using the WordPress Customizer can have a bit of a “Where’s Waldo” feel to it at times. You might make a change to a setting and have to keep your eyes glued to the right side to see if you can find where the change has been made – whether you need to scroll to see it – or if it is even on another page. This issue is similar to the Control Context issue as well. One of the reasons it has this problem is because it wasn’t built for any specific type of page structure. While this is good for expandability, it is also a restriction in that it can’t be as neatly organized as a Control Area built for a specific page structure.

How MP Stacks Brick Editor does this better:

When building our Brick Editor in MP Stacks, we thought about Page Structures from the very beginning. All pages built with MP Stacks have the same basic structure: A Stack which contains an unlimited number of Bricks. This structure allows for a much more speedy page-building process – similar to how a paved freeway allows you to go much quicker than a dune-buggy across sand. Sometimes a little bit of structure actually creates space for some more freedoms.

The controls in the Brick Editor are built to be consistent for every single Brick. Each Brick has Background Controls and Foreground Controls – with a neat and organized place for each. Once the user learns this layout for Controls, they know how to change anything on any part of the site. This is in direct contrast to the Customizer, which doesn’t have any real relation to the page structure whatsoever – and while more “free” like a sand-dune buggy, it’s also more random, requires more guess work, has a longer learning process, requires you to store more in memory for future usage, and doesn’t have the freedom of speed that a paved freeway gives you.

Conclusion

All in all, we feel the built-in WordPress Customizer is great for simple things that appear on every page like your Site Logo, Header Content and Footer Content. However, for more complex page elements that require many settings, the Customizer doesn’t provide an easily navigable experience – which we feel our Brick Editor in MP Stacks does a much better job at.

 

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